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Steve,

Can you explain why the shot clocks have been moved to the corners?

Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions.

Well,I think it was mentioned elsewhere in the forum in greater details, but they did this due to the NHL getting rid of the goal judge, That was the only reason it was behind the goal anyway.

What Pythia says is correct.

The NHL removed the goal judge from just behind the net due to the extensive use of cameras. The goal judge is now up in the press box or some other equivalent area.

I recall reading articles that said that NHL arenas planned to take advantage of this by adding a few seats into that area.

However, now that I really think about it, I'm not sure this really explains why the shot clock itself needed to move. It could've still been behind the goal, as it's just a temporary fixture along the boards.

Also, did the NLL also lose the goal judge as well because of this? The NLL still needs that body, more or less, and I'm not sure this was ever mentioned before.

I agree they need that body but only if they have power and are paying attention. How many goals in last season alone were not counted even though they clearly broke the plane. The body was in the chair at the time but nothing was done about it. Until they get an over the goal camera with someone who can replay it and overrule the officials on the floor missing goals will never go away.

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True, and with today's technology, I find it hard to believe that it would be prohibitively expensive even for the NLL.

Regardless goal judge or not, it was nice to have the shot clock behind the goal where we could see it, whichever side the action was going on.

I agree, not that that'll be taken into consideration by the league, but now I can't tell how much time is left depending on the end of the field the action is...

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I think the question has already been answered by others but the shot clocks were moved in order to accomadate the new premium seating provided by the removal of the NHL goal judges. Our goal judges are now seated to the side of the net and can turn on and off the goal lamp as indicated by the official putting his hands up.

The NHL has a very massive infrastructure to be able to use instant replay, one that we simply cannot afford. Not to mention that the technology does not exist in every NLL building. The ability to have a goal judge upstairs using video equipment is not something the NLL is prepared to do at this point. It has been discussed and continues to occupy a time on our rules agenda, unfortunately, we have other issues we need to tackle and get better at before we go to instant replay.

The clocks are now strategically located so that they can be seen by the players on the floor, they are consistent at both ends while attacking, they are both on the attackers left, both on the goalies right, the benches have a clock that they can see and the shot clock operater in the timers bench can also see. Yes it is somewhat annoying to have to look at the other end if you can't see one end's clock but we felt it was worth the change in light of the opportunity for these great seats behind the net to be used.

Sorry for the confusion from game one, but moving forward it shouldn't even cross your mind.

SG

I understand from the teams and player POV, but it's really distracting when I have to look back at the other end to see how much time is left. It takes my attention away from the action and to be honest, I missed two goals because of it. I also missed the shot to the face on Chugger ( I didn't even realize what happened) and a few other pivotal moments in the game.

I'd like to see them moved back to behind the goal, just my opinion.

Did this happen in all the arenas or just here?

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Why do fans need the shot clock? Other than to make sure the refs are doing there jobs do you really need to watch it. I am watching the play at hand personally. I have a general idea of the time left and I know when it is reset. Honestly we don't need it as much as the players do and I don't see what the big deal is.

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Amen!

It's an important aspect of the game. That I, personally like to be aware of. It's obviously important to the game, if it's important to the players and coaches. It's my personal opinion, like I said.

I'm not saying its a bad decision, actually it makes sense. It's hard to see the shot clock from the players pov and this makes it easier.

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I happen to think its important for every fan that isn't a walking stopwatch. Congrats on being able to count down from 30 in your head on evey possession though. Remember that the goal (no pun intended) is to appeal to a much broader fan base and not just people who have been around the game for a significant amount of time. I'm willing to speculate that those people look at the clock early and often.

Also its not always obvious when the clock is reset on a possesion. Again, maybe this is easy for long time fans of the game, but not for the casuals that we need to really grow the sport.

Finally, on a personal note, I like to be able to see how much time is left because it adds to the drama of the moment. I have a good feel for when time is getting short, but I'm not right on down to the second. I think its farily obvious that in a tight game, teams will act very differently once there is 10 sec or less vs 30 full sec. I think thats what linkinlogs019 is getting at.

Is it more important to the players? Sure. Does it enhance the game for the fans to be able to easily see the clock? I think that is a fairly resounding yes as well.

but you dont need to kno the exact second. if you have a feel you should be ok.

I Find myself looking for the time remaining late in a possesion, I want to either:
A: Know how much longer the D has to Hold them back.
B: How much longer until Langtry has to make an ill advised shot.

It is weird not to just be able to look at the cage and see the time left, when they are on one side of the floor I have to look away from the play to see the time remaining. That is a little annoying. I can deal.

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its kinda annoying but nothing we need to be complaining about.