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Please?????

OR can we at least shave his head.... seriously.... that hair!!!!??????????

Yes please, I would like to see something that resembles the Colorado Mammoth that we entrusted him with. Its time to move on Bob.

Govett, you said on 9/26/07 the following:

"Bob has enjoyed tremendous success in the NLL," Mammoth general manager Steve Govett said. "I believe he is the right man to coach this team and he has my unwavering trust and support."

Do you still feel this same level of trust and support today?

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I am getting sick of all of these threads about firing the coach. If you want him to be fired at least show some logical thought processes behind it instead of being an immature little hivemind. You can't blame McMahon for our team's inability to score goals. 9 goals on 52 shots is unacceptable and the only ones who can directly control that are the players. In addition, we have a much younger roster this year, which means less experience. It's unreasonable to expect all of the players who we acquired over the offseason to step into a new team, have chemistry, know the system, and immediatly have positive results. Our goaltending has been inconsistent, to say the least, with Nash looking like a statue and allowing what seems like every shot in. Our defense, like the rest of the team has been inconsistent, their play was abysmal for the Portland game, however I felt that they played brilliantly for the majority of the Edmonton game. The team and coaching should be evaluated at the season's midpoint, if we are still playing like this, only then should McMahon be fired.

Brad's right. You guys can't just go after Steve, asking him to fire McMahon, with an argument like "he has bad hair." It's pathetic, superficial and asinine. Wanna try for a real argument?

I have taken a vacation from posting on the message boards. I agree with the many of you who feel that maybe we need some time before firing or keeping Coach McMahon. If history is any indicator, we did not win all of our games in 2006 (we finished second in the West), and Portland went to the NLL finals last year, while finishing fourth in the West. Am I upset over the poor and lackluster play right now? Yes I am, but I think we need to play well as a team in the latter half of the season, unlike the last two years where we played well in the first half of the season, backed into the playoffs, and lost in the first round. There were moments of brilliance followed by poor play. This team is going to take time to come together. Danowski is going to need time to learn to play indoors. Chemistry between our veterans and new guys is going to take time. Winning next week against NY will put us at 2-2 before we take on Minnesota and Calgary. Keep our fingers crossed...

Care to tell us, in your expert opinion, why this team has been on the downward slope it terms of playing up to their ability since Hamley left as as assistant coach?

When McMahon and Hamley were in Arizona, they found themselves in the NLL championship game 2 out of their 4 years of existence.
When we had that coaching combo, we were 5-1 last year. When we lost Hamley, we finished our remaining games at 4-6, including the one point loss in Portland where to this day I feel that not pulling Gee cost us that game; pulling the goalie is a coach's decision.
Continuing from last year, with McMahon as head coach, we are now at 5-8 and playing at the Pepsi Center, which used to be a death sentence to any club that walked in the door has now become nothing to fear.

As a head coach, if you can't have your team frothing at the mouth and eating kittens to play and win in front of your home crowd, there is something very, very wrong.

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Go Hawks.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Mammoth havn't lost more than two home games in a given season. looks like we're going to change that

Two things.

First of all, this team is broken. The offense has no fluidity. The left side (Tree and Dano) are two ISO players that become painful to watch when their shots are not going for them. The Offense need to get Back to a team concept. The transition game is no-existent. This used to be one of the most exciting teams running the floor, not anymore. I recommend some breakout drills for an hour during practice. The defense is giving up way to many easy opportunities, did we forget how to defend the pick and roll? Aside from moose intimidating the crap out of whoever is going to go against him, the defense is to soft.

Secondly, This is the wrong place for this! The organization is great to have the "ask the GM" forum, but this type of Cr@p does not belong here. We are all upset, Steve more so, I am sure. Do you actually expect him to respond to this? When he feels the need to replace the coach, he will do it. This forum is not here for us to complain and demand action from Steve, it is for him to provide us to insight into the game and the organization. Please respect that, i do not want to see this section be taken away from us.

Thank you, Drive through....

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But yes Brad, I can blame 9 goals on 52 shots on the coach, when those shots are mostly coming from the perimeter and very little penetration is being made into what I would call a scoring chance to me that is the scheme's fault.

You know Mtn Scott you are right this doesn't belong in this part of the forum, you can't just ask the ask the GM directly to can the head coach. I agree that the stay for McMahon will not end well for him and I am a fan of move him now rather than later. But with that said this needs to stay in Mammoth talk. Beside what is Steve going to do? Log on and say, "OMG I had no idea we were playing so bad, you guys are right lets can him now!" This should stay in "Mammoth Talk".

I completely agree. This is not the purpose of this Ask the GM section.
Plus, I am not a fan a firing a coach unless you have someone that you know will do a better job and is available. I think all the best NLL coaches are currently employed by other teams. Let's face it, Gary is not coming back, so who else is there?

Haven't gone back through every season, but we went 6-2 at home last year, and then lost the playoff game.

And now 0-2 this year.

So, 6-5 at home under McMahon overall.

I agree with whomever stated that this thread does not belong here. There is little doubt in my mind that Steve Govett has called Bob McMahon into his office and told him to close the door. I think we would all agree that the conversation was far from pleasant.


With respect to Bob Hamley now coaching Edmonton, he simply was not available when Gary Gait left the team.

Craig, thanks for posting McMahon's record.. Lets just see if they can turn it around this Saturday...

The only thing that matters is the "Champions Cup"...

First, I don't believe this is the wrong place for this. Steve and the Mammoth organization are kind enough to open this forum to questions. You can't expect every thread to be "nice and neat". There are going to be some ugly ones, especially when the team looks like crap over two consecutive HOME games.

Second, the teamÂ’s ability to only score 9 goals on 52 shots is the coachÂ’s fault. Mainly because 40+ of those shots are from 20-25 feet out!! Notice in the Fourth quarter when we actually started cutting to the net or started feeding the ball inside is when we finally made a game of it and scored some goals? The first seven quarters at home were painful to watch, but the last one WAS the Mammoth that we know and love; aggressive and in your face lacrosse.

You can't ask for the coaches head Two games into any season (mainly because of all the new faces), or for the first game after an new offensive coach has been in power.

If we aren't at least 5-3 by the All Star Break, then I think it is time for change.

On a side note Mr. Govett, since this team has become very boring and passive as a whole (this is also a hangover from last year), I have chosen to pass on my first game in 4 years and take the 60 dollars I usually pay for my 2 club seats, and stay at home and order UFC 93 on PPV. And it isnÂ’t just me. The 10 people I usually take as a group are doing this as well, because it was their idea.

We will see you all on Feb 14th. Hopefully by then they turn it around.

Here's an open ended question for anyone who wants to fire the coach:
Can you name for me one team in any sport who has fired its coach and then promptly turned around and won a championship?

There are lots of examples of coaching changes that result in a temporary boost for the team, but the difference there is that the teams (most recently the Rams this year) are full time professionals who have plenty of time to practice, etc. These guys get to practice as a team once a week. Thats not enough time to install a new system. Sorry but those are the facts.

If we fire the coach, then we're essentially giving up on the season when its only barley begun. Be careful what you wish for.

None that I can think of but many have been calling for this at the end of last season and it's more of the same in 09. For whatever reason, his style is not right for this team and hasn't been for quite some time.

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Mike Keenan - New York Rangers 1994
Joe Torre - New York Yankees 1996
John Gruden - Tampa bay Bucs 2002

And the Cardnials have a chance to do it this weeked.

Those are just off the top of my head. I am sure I can find more if I look.

In 2003 the Florida Marlins fired Jeff Torborg in May and replaced him with Jack McKeon. At one point they had the worst record in all of baseball. Then they went on to win the World Series that year.

Aren't most of these the year after the coach was fired, not during the season? The Cards hired their guy back in 07. I think the point was the same year you fire your coach and then still go on and win it all.

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